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[kromkowski@aol.com]

Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 19:37:46 EDT
From: PHILHOOVER@aol.com

J.D. Kromkowski wrote:

" In the beginning for Deming, there was understanding variation as the starting point. Understanding variation will lead one eventually like Deming to an expanded theory of better management that includes appreciation for a system, theory of knowledge, and psychology. But even 
really understanding any one or even all of those other three will not necessarily lead you to "understanding variation"."

Phil wrote:

"In previous times, I often disagreed with Mr. Kromkowski but in this paragraph, I totally agree."

When have you disagreed with me?

In this message, 

http://deming.ces.clemson.edu/pub/den/archive/97.10/msg00013.html

you wrote:

"As a tribute, I must say that I feel that our recent contributer Kromkowski understood this [same topic]more than most contributors to the DEN.  I will miss him."

I suppose to be fair, on the other hand, if you take a look at this entire post:

http://deming.ces.clemson.edu/pub/den/archive/2000.08/threads.html#00026

One might suggest that you disagreed with me that most of the DEN has been MOSTLY repeating itself to a smaller and smaller audience.

But, of course, when you look at the 97.10 thread where you praised me, you will see that, we are again, repeating ourselves.  So, I suspect that you now agree with me.

My thoughts haven't change much since 2000.  

Are we sure we don't want to try something different with DEN?  

Or even on a lark randomnly pick a couple of threads each 
month from the archive and post to DEN to see if it ain't deja vu all over again.

Can the DEN heal thy self, maybe even with some of Deming's principles!

On the other hand, as I routed through the archive  I came 
across this tibit, from me:

"The reason D ideas and practices are not widely put into practice has, I estimate, little if anything to do with the 
DEN.  It has to do with the fact that most top management 
doesn't give a damn about learning how to construct a 
control chart or changing the ways which have brought them 
money, power, prestige. "

http://deming.ces.clemson.edu/pub/den/archive/97.08/msg00050.html

JDK

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