Re: Check out John Guaspari re the need for a System View

[TQNELSON@aol.com]

In a message dated 9/13/1999 12:06:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
mtribus@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net writes:

<< I went to the article and read it.  I agree that Guaspari is calling for a
 systems view but only implicitly.  I do not agree that his article
 indicates an awareness of a need for the SoPK view. >>

Myron,

I never said he had an SoPK approach (outside of some DEN members you won't 
find anyone with that). What I noted was that:

" that shows the GROWING AWARENESS of the absence of (WHAT WE, AS STUDENTS OF 
WED, WOULD CALL) a SoPK view (especially the critical need for a view based 
on "the system" vs. the parts).

The article is not a "Gee, Dr. D. was right." But IMHO does reflect a 
positive shift away from "parts centered approaches" to a need for "more."

It represent OPPORTUNITY. Here is a regonized consultant from the 
conventional mangement community (which, let's be hones, represents well over 
80% of business and industry  [exceptions being so few as to clearly be 
"special cause" variations]) who sees the need for "more." He admits that he 
doesn't know the answer (how could he know?), and invites input:

"If you're waiting for an answer from me, you'll be disappointed. I don't 
have one. This is a thorny, nontrivial problem, so instead of an answer, I 
can offer only a plaintive cry: Why must it be thus?"

Sound to me just like I said, an opportunity to share the/our answer to the 
"need for a view based on "the system" vs. the parts."

Del Nelson
American River College

When "We, the People..." are replaced
by dollars, profits, and greed,
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